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Because they don’t know ? might be later this week, or in 2 weeks or maybe longer… perhaps they thought they were close recently ? Perhaps a lender dropped out ? Perhaps it won’t happen ?

I’m not defending tides confusing lists etc but I can fully see why they can’t put a fixed date on it & why it could take a lot longer than they even envisage.

I dig your frustrations, we’re all in the same boat… end of the day, do all we can, sign up to all banks, try every angle, sign petitions, lobby to mp’s … and if we still end up going down at least we can’t be disappointed with ourselves for not trying our hardest.

Just some communication isn’t much to ask ??
I don’t care who Oliver Prill thinks he is he’s not my boss so as a customer of his he should have the decency of communication to us ??
Bloody rude

Ah Cam. You just reminded me about the lists. On Thursday they said the app tracker would be very soon. It’s now the close of play Monday and nothing. I’m sure you will agree with me that is not what should be called very soon.

Unfortunately Tide are my last angle.

But I agree with you that there is nothing we can do. Especially on here when a single moderator has not been online in the last 3 hours.

I agree, It’s not - but just as with the loans, I’m sure they would prefer to have it all sorted.

They’re not intentionally leading people on to screw them over, they have over promised & under delivered but not intentionally.

My bank haven’t even bothered to try so in my book tide are a cut above that even if so far it’s not gone quite to plan.

They will come through, but let’s face it we need to raise funds, somehow elsewhere to tie us over till then.

I also think people who haven’t received furlough or grants or self employment support WILL get something soon, need to keep putting pressure on the toffs in office.

I honestly think they will find they cannot leave anyone who started a business or working for themselves in the last 16 months out from any support, the most un progressive economically ridiculous thing they could do and I think they will realise especially with 3m people giving them shit lol.

:crossed_fingers:

I wish I shared your optimism Cam but I’m at breaking point. I’m days if not hours away from losing absolutely everything that I’ve worked all my life for.

What can be done? There is very often a way through mate, take on an investor? Bridging loan? Invoice finance? Take to supplier hold them off / rent breaks? If you need to brain storm with someone hit me up on a private message mate.

I really have tried or done all that mate. Started the business last August after 10 years of saving to buy my house outright. Ploughed everything I had into the business which was going so great I moved it to the next level in January. In January I had £67,000 worth of confirmed bookings for the year however since c19 that’s dropped to £49,000 providing I can be back up in business by the end of July.

I won’t have a business but then if I can’t raise £15,000.

I’m in the catering industry so selling my assets won’t help as obviously people are not buying so that leaves me with nothing as all the cash I had has been put into various things for the years future bookings.

Shit yeah. I’m in catering industry too mate, sounds like we are in a very similar position - the only real thing I’ve had to sell is my car which is now gone & also running on fumes I think I can last till august tho and I could possibly take an investor in for a few grand for say a 10% cut on profit moving forward, probably wouldn’t be on the most favourable terms but provided we don’t lose everything I don’t really mind.

I have a horsebox trailer Ive half turned into mobile catering, needs a few more grand on it, everything in place back end wise, licences sorted with council, location etc & even more so now given the “new normal” and so many restaurants hemoraging money I think will absolutely cream it going forward… but - currrently unless I get cash flow nowt is going to come about.

How about remortgage for a very small amount, use it as a bridging loan and pay it off when sorted ?

Where you based mate ?

@Andyp1966 the caterers that manage to weather this storm will have an increased market share moving forward … in Cornwall where I’m established 40% of places may never open again… people still want to eat & next year U.K. holidays will do well

make all this your motivation not to throw in the towel like many others will !!

It’s undoubtedly a f’in sh*t position we’ve been forced into. I really do see us coming right & even going on to thrive provided we make it through till we get working again.

I’m based in Cheshire. I do very private dining for clients after that Michelin star experience in the home. Think Cheshire housewives.

Me and the wife saved extremely hard to buy this house outright so the thought of taking out a mortgage on it when c19 could possibly hit us again is not something I would ever think of asking her to do to be brutally honest.

As I said I have bookings all year and the £49,000 I’m due to gain is profit but not a single bank will touch me on bookings alone for the simple reason the bookings may disappear if a 2nd wave hits.

Come dine with me style eh sounds pretty cool. I have to admit as much as the catering industry is bloody hard work and can be very stressful (had a restaurant for a few years) I have certainly realised through Covid 19 we are in a pretty safe market place in that people will always want to eat.

Fortunately for us both we arnt tied in to stupid rents in a restaurant, What we’re doing is actually quite versatile & in your case savvy & good £ for the service, but I honestly do hear you mate, you need the money to get set up again as with me & now need a work veichle too :laughing: lol

If it was possible I would get out contracting But the whole market is fooked

Come dine with me, mobile food & outdoor catering will absolutely cream it - restaurants & pubs are fooked although contracting may pick up again in summer as places would have laid off full time staff.

Check out how many punch taverns are available to take on in Cornwall 20+

That is a seriously increased market share for anyone who lasts out.

Hi all,

I completely understand you are eager for us to share an update about BBL as this is of paramount importance to you and your business.

I’ve read some of your comments about our communications lacking clarity, I’m really sorry to hear you feel this way. Since we got accredited for the Bounce Back Loan Scheme, we created a landing page for the scheme, 52 FAQs, 8 blog articles and sent 15 BBL emails to our waitlist as well as updating our social community. We’ll continue communicating regularly with you but as I have explained on the community before - we want to update you when we have significant news. As of our last update from our CEO, we are very close to securing more funding.

We have been busy working on building out our waitlist into a self-service tool for our members that will allow you to see your position against our lending. Apart from the funding, variables which may specifically effect your waitlist position include eligibility status, other members decision on withdrawing the loan ahead of you and other members choosing not to opt in to a BBL with Tide.

If you are still confused about the above or think you have been given an incorrect waitlist position, please send me a DM so I can look into it and understand what happened. I’ll do my best to get back to you shortly.

In regards to timeline for the launch of our automated tracker, I’m afraid that I can’t give you a firm date but a dedicated team is working hard to launch this soon - we will update you as soon as it’s live. As always, we will beta-test this first to make sure it is working as it should for our members.

We will continue to keep you updated and, as we have said in our previous communications, we encourage members to consider all other options as well as a Bounce Back Loan from Tide.

Thank you for your patience,
Valentine

I hate to be a pain Valentine but you and other members of the Tide team said last Thursday that the automated tracker would be ready “Very soon”. Now your saying soon once the beta test has been done.

I’m sure you will agree that it’s now 5 days later and that’s not what anyone would call “Very soon”.

Anyone who is still angry on this platform, on Trust Pilot and on Twitter will only realise: Tide do not have the same BOE privileges to print cash. Sadly they are no different to you and me trying to borrow some liquid for you Business.
Imagine what it’s like to borrow £300m Bounce Back Loan, if 50k is driving you mad, you would be put away in a secure box for 300m.

Perhaps it’s all that trust pilot gunfire delaying the Loans Tide are meant to be receiving.

What I mean “no offense” is our anger us misplaced, let it RIP on Rishi Sunak, BOE and BBB for not providing an adequate scheme. Get all up on the petition (get all your friends and family to sign) and and also let it RIP Big Time on the Treasury thing on a word document.

The scheme is riddled with problems, we need a new stimulus package. The Treasury need to explore other options aswel such as a Bad Bank incase it goes North. Perhaps this BBL should be some sort of Grant. Why is the government giving this to private companies to use their money, they must give it to us directly

I’m not vouching for Tide with this Number Position thing it just adds to confusion and Oliver just needs to scrap that for now to be honest.
I believe they have already started trimming the fat so it’s a good sign he has high hopes of actually delivering some BBLs at some point.

Hello Valentine,

I have been trying to figure out how to DM you but can… Can you please DM me so I can send you a response ?